Tomorrow we’re going to do tests with cameras from Camalot in Amsterdam. I’m very happy that we can also test (and most likely use) the new Sony F65 camera, which made everyone in the industry drool! More news & original frame samples will be posted here tomorrow.
-Ton-
The lack of de-bayering will certainly help green screening compared to the Red.
Could we also get some files as they are directly off the Cameras, with any metadata too, if possible? It would be handy for supporting some of these cameras in open software.
We will fill a 1 TB drive with test footage. For sure a nice selection of the files will end up on the web :)
I was checking googel about the Camera and
“what d´ Mother F#~*”…. :D
What has happend to the Flying-Camera thad remot 8 Rotors Helicopter thing I sawe last week in the Block???
Are you still gonna use red ? Which is the best ?
We might be using both even. All pending tests…
I change my gravatar …
Nice! Like it even more than the Red Epic! The sensor should deliver better colors, so good choice! Wish I could afford one… :p
Why shoot with a 4K camera (RED or F65) instead of a 2K camera such as Arri Alexa on Mango Project ? (No critics at all, just a question)
Twice the pixels to work with. Not only does it allow a 4k finished master of the film without scaling, but it gives extra resolution for tweaking things a bit during compositing. It’s a matter of setting your resolution during a render when your entire film is made in 3D, but when you’re working with non-vector images like video footage, best to start with the highest possible quality. Much like textures.
4k indeed allows to manipulate the pixels more (before it becomes blurry). But we also like to keep it open to deliver the film in 4k itself. The industry loves such high quality films for testing & references. Waiting for a sponsor to pay for it though…
Since it’s a CMOS sensor is there going to be a “rollong shutter” issue while tracking footage? Otherwise, looks like an awesome cam.
Technically yes, as all CMOS sensors have a “rolling shutter” effect, but the better the sensor, the less it is noticeable. Given that this is Sony’s flagship Cinealta, it’s likely the industry’s best sensor. This is what it’s designed to do. Much better than a flipcam, iPhone, or any $50k camera on the market.
Correction…techincally yes to it having a “rolling shutter” effect, but likely to be insignificant.
Also, if I’m not mistaking, the camera is capable of using it’s mechanical shutter instead of the electronical one, which should reduce the problem for the most part!
Yes the mechanical shutter eliminates jello affects.
Nice webcam, could need it too!
Hey, that’s a 4K camera, isn’t it? Mango will be a cinema quality production! Too bad it will be very short, but who knows, other productions using Blender may crop up.
A run down of the technologies in the F65, sounds like a phenomenal camera!
http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/video/collections-technology_training/all-genre/?sort=recent&view=grid
(Click on F65 Technologies for 4K Cinematography)
I really like the idea of using a high-end camera for shooting Mango. I understand that it will pave the way for Blender to enter the VFX industry. Developing and testing such a pro workflow is much needed to help establish Blender’s position in the industry.
What I would also like is to see more down to earth DSLR cameras used in production. Let’s face it, the average amateur filmmaker, small studios or freelance artists will never afford such a camera. I’m hoping that all Mango-related developments will be directly or indirectly applicable to low-end cameras.
If your considering using both a RED Epic and the Sony F65, why not consider using something like a 5D Mark II as well? It’s no secret that many of the pros shooting tv shows and films use DSLRs as “B” cameras for their advantages of being lightweight and able to get into tight spaces. This way everybody would have a great range of test footage to play with afterwards and you would satisfy all the high end film buffs as well as the amateurs who are following the Mango project.
Good idea to keep in mind :)
Isn’t that big-time cutting corners if you’re making a 4K movie?
If the point is every frame in 4k, then yes. There are some circumstances where a full frame DSLR, might be a very good choice for artistic reasons, thanks the sensor size, a particular lens, or a need to get into small corners. HDSLRs might also be useful for capturing background plates or additional angles to fill in blind spots for reconstruction.
If Blender (in general) can handle 4K image sequences, then chances are it’ll handle 1080p image sequences as well.
Perhaps a few nodes can be catered to Dslr’s, such as noise removal, moire removal, and things like that, but overall I think this is one case where the actual benefits of having Blender designed for such a high-end, cutting edge piece of technology will go all the way down to those of us shooting 1080p sub-100mbps footage.
The benefits of using a Dslr during production are definitely good ones though, the portability is excellent – I think currently that the Nikon 800, or the 7D are the only cameras that can put out clean 1080p 4:2:2 via HDMI (7D may actually only be 4:2:0), which is a major factor when shooting against green screen, and for colour grading.
+1
even though even 5D Mark II (or III) are still out of reach for most filmmakers.
Hi Ton,
I would like to add a banner to my site to redirect to project mango (I already wrote a post about it). My site si about a movi project, and at least for the teaser’s previz it uses Blender, so it’s kinda related. I shoot about 100 visits a week so I believe that it would be useful for Mango.
Can I add a banner?
Carlo